5. Fanny FRANKLIN-498 (William
, James
) was baptised on 2 Jun 1822 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. She died in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. She was buried on 5 Sep 1865 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2.
Fanny was recorded in the 1841 census (June 7) with husband Joseph RUMBLE, an Ag. Lab, in Cholsey, Berkshire 3.
She had the following children.
16 F i Marianne FRANKLIN-504 was born on 17 Jun 1838 1. She was baptised on 5 Aug 1838 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1.
Fanny also married Joseph RUMBLE-505, son of James RUMBLE-518 and Sarah [--?--]-552, on 29 Oct 1840 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. Joseph was born about 1812 2. He was buried on 2 Feb 1888 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2.
Joseph was recorded in the 1881 census (April 3) as a "pauper inmate" of the Union Workhouse in Wallingford St Mary Le More, Berkshire 3.
Son of James, born in Cholsey according to census. But no baptism to be found in the Cholsey PRs for a Joseph s. of James, although there are several children of a James & Sarah before 1812.
Date of birth calculated from age stated at burial, which was way out, considering he was 20 or younger in the 1841 census.
Marriage Notes:
Family not recorded in OFHS 1861 census.
Marriages Dec 1840 FRANKLYN Fanny Wallingford 6 4116 411
Fanny and Joseph had the following children.
17 M ii Thomas RUMBLE-527 was baptised on 5 Sep 1841 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1.
This could very well be Thomas and family in the 1881 census:
Dwelling: 9 Gadsden Mews
Census Place: Kensington, London, Middlesex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341009
PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0040 Folio 47 Page 43
Rel,Marr,Age,Sex,Occ,Birthplace
Thomas RUMBLE,Head,M,38,M,Plate Layer,Berkshire,England
Harriet RUMBLE,Wife,M,35,F,Pinner, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth RUMBLE,Daur,14,F,Marylebone,Middlesex,England
Edith RUMBLE,Daur,12,F,Marylebone,Middlesex,England
Willie RUMBLE,Son,10,M,Marylebone,Middlesex,England
Minnie RUMBLE,Daur,6,F,Kensington,Middlesex,England
John L. RUMBLE,Son,4,M,Kensington,Middlesex,England
Lucy RUMBLE,Daur,2,F,Kensington,Middlesex,England
but check for other Thomas RUMBLES born 1840-45 first.first.18 M iii William RUMBLE-528 was born on 1 Feb 1843. He was baptised on 25 May 1843 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. He died in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. He was buried on 8 Apr 1858 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. 19 F iv Emma RUMBLE-529 was born on 12 Jun 1844 1. She was baptised on 7 Jul 1844 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. 20 F v Lucy RUMBLE-530 was born on 31 Mar 1846 1. She was baptised on 3 May 1846 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. 21 M vi Joseph RUMBLE-531 was born on 3 May 1848 1. He was baptised on 2 Jul 1848 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. He was buried on 4 Sep 1848 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. 22 M vii Job RUMBLE-532 was baptised on 3 Feb 1850 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. 23 M viii Edward RUMBLE-533 was born on 2 May 1852 1. He was baptised on 6 Jul 1852 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. He was buried on 13 Jul 1852 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. 24 F ix Hariet RUMBLE-534 was born on 6 Jul 1853 1. She was baptised on 7 Aug 1853 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. 25 M x Edwin RUMBLE-535 was baptised on 1 Jun 1856 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. 26 F xi Eliza RUMBLE-536 was born on 27 Aug 1858 1. She was baptised on 2 Jan 1859 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. She died in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. She was buried on 14 Nov 1872 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. 27 F xii Esther RUMBLE-537 was born on 7 Mar 1860 1. She was baptised on 3 Jun 1860 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. 28 M xiii Alfred RUMBLE-538 was born on 1 Apr 1862 1. He was baptised on 6 Jul 1862 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. He died in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. He was buried on 11 Jun 1863 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. 29 M xiv Albert RUMBLE-539 was born on 9 Jun 1864 1. He was baptised on 3 Sep 1864 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. He died in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. He was buried on 12 Sep 1864 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2.
7. Thomas William James FRANKLIN-500 (William
, James
) was baptised on 28 May 1826 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. He died in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. He was buried on 28 Aug 1876 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2.
Thomas was recorded in the 1841 census (June 7) as a male servant in the household of farmer William GREENWOOD in Cholsey, Berkshire 3. He was a witness to the marriage of his sister Sophia to Richard DAY on 13 Sep 1847 in Cholsey, Berkshire 4. He was recorded in the 1851 census (March 30) with parents William and Lucy and siblings Sophia, Edward, William, Amelia, Charles and Hannah in Cholsey, Berkshire 5.
Thomas married Maria PARSONS "Mary"-508, daughter of Francis PARSONS-519 and Mary [--?--]-520, on 22 May 1853 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. Mary was born on 24 Jan 1814 2. She was baptised on 20 Feb 1814 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. She died in Cholsey, Berkshire 3. She was buried on 30 Sep 1880 in Cholsey, Berkshire 3.
They had the following children.
30 F i Prudence FRANKLIN-509 was born on 1 Aug 1853 1. She was baptised on 3 Sep 1854 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. She died in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. She was buried on 3 Aug 1863 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. 31 M ii Thomas Edward FRANKLIN-510 was born on 12 Jun 1856 1. He was baptised on 3 Aug 1856 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. He was buried on 16 Apr 1858 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. 32 M iii Walter Thomas FRANKLIN-546 was baptised on 1 Jul 1860 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1.
8. Edwin "Edward" FRANKLIN-501 (William
, James
) was baptised on 22 Feb 1829 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. He died in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. He was buried on 9 Sep 1865 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2.
Edward was recorded in the 1841 census (June 7) with parents William & Lucy and siblings Sophia, William, Amelia, James, May and Charles in Cholsey, Berkshire 3. He was recorded in the 1851 census (March 30) with parents William and Lucy and siblings Sophia, Thomas, William, Amelia, Charles and Hannah in Cholsey, Berkshire 4. He was recorded in the 1861 census (April 7) as head of household, occupation journeyman shoemaker, with wife Mary Ann and son Charles in Cholsey, Berkshire 5.
Edward married Mary Ann SMITH-512, daughter of John SMITH-513 and Ann FREEMAN-521, on 22 Nov 1856 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. Mary was born about 1832 1. She was baptised on 2 Jun 1833 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. She died in Cholsey, Berkshire 3. She was buried on 3 Aug 1888 in Cholsey, Berkshire 3.
Mary was recorded in the 1881 census (April 3) in the household of second husband William MACE together with children Theodore, Belinda and Martha (FRANKLIN) and William, Esther and George (MACE) in Cholsey, Berkshire 4.
They had the following children.
33 M i Charles Edward FRANKLIN-515 was born on 1 Sep 1859 1. He was baptised on 6 Nov 1859 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1.
Charles was recorded in the 1861 census (April 7) with parents Edward and Mary Ann in Cholsey, Berkshire 2.34 F ii Adelaide FRANKLIN-548 was born on 30 Jan 1861 1. She was baptised on 6 Oct 1861 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1.
Births Sep 1861 FRANKLIN Adelaide Wallingford 2c 2842c 28428435 M iii Theodore FRANKLIN-549 was born on 17 Feb 1863 1. He was baptised on 5 Apr 1863 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. 36 F iv Belinda FRANKLIN-550 was born on 31 Mar 1864 1. She was baptised on 1 May 1864 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. 37 F v Martha FRANKLIN-551 was born on 28 May 1869 1. She was baptised in Sep 1869 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1.
Martha was born several years after Mary Ann's husband Edwin had died (in 1865). Wonder if the birth certificate gives the father?
9. William FRANKLIN-502 (William
, James
) was baptised on 1 Jan 1832 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1.
William was recorded in the 1841 census (June 7) with parents William & Lucy and siblings Sophia, Edward, Amelia, James, May and Charles in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. He was recorded in the 1851 census (March 30) with parents William and Lucy and siblings Sophia, Thomas, Edward, Amelia, Charles and Hannah in Cholsey, Berkshire 3. He was recorded in the 1881 census (April 3) as head of household, occupation agricultural labourer, with second wife Eliza and children Alfred and John in Cholsey, Berkshire 4.
1881 census: William is recorded with 2nd wife Elizabeth, son Alfred (20!) and John (2m!); still to be entered.
William married Martha HOPKINS-511, daughter of Thomas HOPKINS-522 and Hannah MOTT-523, on 18 Oct 1856 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. Martha was baptised on 9 Oct 1831 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. She was buried on 23 Feb 1874 in Cholsey, Berkshire 3.
Marriage Notes:
Marriages Dec 1856 FRANKLYN William Wallingford 2c 7172c 717717
William and Martha had the following children.
38 F i Jane FRANKLIN-514 was born on 21 Jun 1858 1. She was baptised on 1 Aug 1858 1 in Cholsey, Berkshire. 39 M ii Henry FRANKLIN-547 was baptised on 31 Dec 1860 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. 40 M iii Alfred FRANKLIN-656 was born in Cal 1861 1 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1.
William also married Eliza BANNISTER-553, daughter of William BANNISTER-554 and Martha WARING-555, on 22 Aug 1875 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. Eliza was born on 24 May 1847 2. She was baptised on 4 Jul 1847 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2.
They had the following children.
41 M iv James Thomas FRANKLIN-556 was born on 3 Aug 1876 1. He was baptised on 1 Oct 1876 1 in Cholsey, Berkshire. He died in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. He was buried on 16 Jul 1877 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. 42 M v John William FRANKLIN-557 was born in Cal Feb 1881 1 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. He was baptised on 3 Apr 1881 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2.
10. Amelia FRANKLIN-639 (William
, James
) was born in 1833/1834 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1.
Amelia was recorded in the 1841 census (June 7) with parents William & Lucy and siblings Sophia, Edward, William, James, May and Charles in Cholsey, Berkshire. She was recorded in the 1851 census (March 30) with parents William and Lucy and siblings Sophia, Thomas, Edward, William, Charles and Hannah in Cholsey, Berkshire 1.
Amelia not with parents in 1861 census; no Amelia of the right age recorded on the OFHS 1861 census CD.CD.
She had the following children.
43 M i Charles FRANKLIN-641 was born on 2 Aug 1852 1. He was baptised on 5 Sep 1852 1 in Cholsey, Berkshire.
Charles was recorded in the 1861 census (April 7) with grandparents William and Lucy FRANKLIN and their children Charles and Hannah in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. He was recorded in the 1881 census (April 3) as head of household, occupation foreman platelayer, with wife Annie and children Thomas, Charles, Amy, Rosa, James and Edith in Hanwell, Middlesex 3.Charles married Annie FRASER-645, daughter of William FRASER-646, on 10 Nov 1872 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1.
Amelia also married Charles GOLDING-642 on 15 May 1853 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. Charles was born 1 about 1830.
Marriage Notes:
No Amelia GOLDING recorded on OFHS 1861 census CD; Check 1861 national census on Ancestry.
Marriages Jun 1853 FRANKLYN Emelia Wallingford 2c 5042c 504504
13. Charles FRANKLIN-229 (William
, James
) was born on 30 May 1839 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. He was baptised on 7 Sep 1845 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. He died in Cholsey, Berkshire 3. He was buried on 6 Jun 1875 in Cholsey, Berkshire 3.
Charles was recorded in the 1841 census (June 7) with parents William & Lucy and siblings Sophia, Edward, William, Amelia, James, and May in Cholsey, Berkshire 4. He was recorded in the 1851 census (March 30) with parents William and Lucy and siblings Sophia, Thomas, Edward, William, Amelia, and Hannah in Cholsey, Berkshire 5. He was recorded in the 1861 census (April 7) with parents William and Lucy, sister Hannah and sister Amelia's son Charles in Cholsey, Berkshire 6. He was recorded in the 1871 census (April 2) as "John," occupation Ag. Lab, with wife Jane, children Henry, John, Elizabeth and Alice and Joseph COOK, Lodger, in Cholsey, Berkshire 7.
Charles was often recorded as John in the parish registers and in various census records.
Charles married Jane GIBBS-477, daughter of James GIBBS-489 and Mary KILBY-490, on 16 Apr 1865 in Wallingford, Berkshire 1. Jane was born about 1836 in Stanton St. John, Oxfordshire 2. She was baptised on 27 Nov 1836 in Stanton St. John, Oxfordshire 3.
Jane was recorded in the 1841 census (June 7) with parents James & Mary and siblings Ann and James in Stanton St. John, Oxfordshire 4. She was recorded in the 1851 census (March 30) with parents James (a farmer) & Mary and siblings Ann, James and Richard in Horsepath, Oxfordshire 5. She was recorded in the 1861 census (April 7) visiting the family of her sister Anne, married to William WADDUP, Steel Mason, in Horsepath, Oxfordshire 6. She was recorded in the 1871 census (April 2) with husband Charles, recorded as "John," and children Henry, John, Elizabeth, and Alice and a lodger, Joseph COOK, in Cholsey, Berkshire 7. She was recorded in the 1881 census (April 3) as widowed head of household with children Elizabeth M. (13), Alice (11) and Herbert (8) living in Ilges Lane in Cholsey, Berkshire 8. She was recorded in the 1891 census (April 5) as head of household, occuption tailoress, with one lodger, James SMITH (stone mason, from Ireland) in Cholsey, Berkshire 9. She was recorded in the 1901 census (March 31) as a widow living in the household of her son-in-law Charles CROOK and daughter Alice in the Parish of St. Leonards in Wallingford, Berkshire 2.
Found two possible death references on FreeBMD:
Deaths Jun 1912 FRANKLIN Jane 75 Wallingford 2c 358
Deaths Jun 1914 FRANKLIN Jane 76 Wallingford 2c 366
Jane's burial is not recorded in the registers of Cholsey, Wallingford or Stanton St. John. I wonder where she ended up.up.
They had the following children.
44 M i Henry FRANKLIN-488 was born in 1863/1864 in Horsepath, Oxfordshire 1. He was baptised on 17 Apr 1864 in Horsepath, Oxfordshire 2.
Henry was recorded in the 1871 census (April 2) with parents Charles (recorded as "John") and Jane and siblings John, Elizabeth, and Alice and a lodger, Joseph COOK, in Cholsey, Berkshire 1.
Henry was baptised "1864 April 17 GIBBS Harry baseborn s Jane spinster" in Horsepath, OXF, where he was born (according to the 1871 census) and where mother Jane was visiting her sister Anne in the 1861 census. He might just be a FRANKLIN, but I haven't been able to find his birth reference in the GRO index.
1881 Census: Negative. Perhaps he's serving in the military? In Afghanistan?45 M ii John FRANKLIN-20 was born on 12 May 1865 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. He was baptised on 6 Aug 1865 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. He died on 1 Dec 1932 in Kingston Blount, Oxfordshire 3, 4. He was buried on 5 Dec 1932 in Cholsey, Berkshire 5.
John was recorded in the 1871 census (April 2) with parents Charles (recorded as "John") and siblings Henry, Elizabeth, and Alice and a lodger, Joseph COOK, in Cholsey, Berkshire 6. He was recorded in the 1891 census (April 5) as a lodger, occupation engine cleaner, living two doors down from future wife Sophia and her widowed father Henry FAULKNER in Cholsey, Berkshire 7. He was recorded in the 1901 census (March 31) as head of household, occupation railway labourer & platelayer, with wife Sophia and sons Harold and Jack in Reading, Berkshire 8. He was working as as a foreman platelayer when son Harold married Martha Jane Boyle on 24 Aug 1912 9. He was working as working as a railway ganger when his daughter Ivy married Charles BRAZELL on 6 Oct 1927 10.
Date of birth in baptism register (10 May) two days earlier than date on birth certificate (12 May); father Charles is once again named as John.
In the 1881 census, there is only one John FRANKLIN born about the right time in Berkshire, but he was born in Slade End, just to the north of Cholsey.John married Sophia FAULKNER-19, daughter of Henry FAULKNER-205 and Sarah LIDDIARD-206, on 13 Jun 1891 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. Sophia was born on 22 Oct 1865 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. She was baptised on 4 Mar 1866 in Cholsey, Berkshire 3. She died on 11 Nov 1949 in Yeovil, Somerset 4. She was buried on 18 Nov 1949 in Cholsey, Berkshire 5.
Sophia was recorded in the 1871 census (April 2) with parents Henry & Sarah FAULKNOR and siblings John, Henry, Sarah, Emma and Stephen in Cholsey, Berkshire 6. She was recorded in the 1891 census (April 5) living with widowed father Henry FAULKNER and niece Louisa BALDWIN two doors down from future husband John FRANKLIN in Cholsey, Berkshire 7. She was recorded in the 1901 census (March 31) with husband John FRANKLIN and sons Harold and Jack in Reading, Berkshire 8.46 F iii Elizabeth Mary FRANKLIN-486 was born on 11 Jun 1867 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. She was baptised on 4 Aug 1867 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2.
Elizabeth was recorded in the 1871 census (April 2) with parents Charles (recorded as "John") and Jane and siblings Henry, John, and Alice and a lodger, Joseph COOK, in Cholsey, Berkshire 3. She was recorded in the 1881 census (April 3) with widowed mother Jane and siblings Alice and Herbert in Cholsey, Berkshire 4. She was recorded in the 1891 census (April 5) with husband Harry NELSON, inn keeper and coal merchant, daughters Emily and Hilda, and a bunch of labourers employed on widening works living at the "Star Inn" in Cholsey, Berkshire 5.
According to baptism register, her parents are Charles & "Elizabeth," but she is named with parents and siblings in the 1871 census, so I assume the vicar made a mistake when he was entering the details.
Marriages Dec 1887 FRANKLIN Elizabeth Mary - Wallingford 2c 729 (Until I get the certificate I am assuming that Elizabeth Mary married Henry NELSON and not James WEST, the other male named with the same marriage reference on FreeBMD. Her 1891 census entry also assumes that Elizabeth married Henry NELSON, even if her stated age in the census makes her 6 or 7 years older than she actually is.)is.)47 F iv Alice FRANKLIN-478 was born on 22 Dec 1869 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. She was baptised on 3 Apr 1870 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2.
Alice was recorded in the 1871 census (April 2) with parents Charles (recorded as "John") and siblings Henry, John, and Elizabeth and a lodger, Joseph COOK, in Cholsey, Berkshire 3. She was recorded in the 1881 census (April 3) with widowed mother Jane and siblings Elizabeth and Herbert in Cholsey, Berkshire 4.Alice married Charles Greenaway CROOK-479, son of Henry CROOK-480 and Ann GREENAWAY-483, on 4 Jul 1896 1 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. Charles was born in Cal 1872 in Dorchester, Oxfordshire 2. He was baptised on 31 Mar 1872 in Dorchester, Dorset 3.
Charles was recorded in the 1881 census (April 3) with parents Henry and Ann CROOK in Wallingford, Berkshire 4.
Births Mar 1872 CROOK Charles Greenaway Wallingford 2c 3312c 331331Marriage Notes:
Marriages Sep 1896 FRANKLIN Alice Wallingford 2c 6152c 615615
48 M v Herbert FRANKLIN-487 was born on 8 Jun 1872 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. He was baptised on 4 Aug 1872 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2.
Herbert was recorded in the 1881 census (April 3) with widowed mother Jane and sisters Elizabeth and Alice in Cholsey, Berkshire 3.
The Cholsey PRs give his parents as John & Jane:
1872 Aug 4 born 9 Jun FRANKLYN Herbert John & Jane Labourer FMA
1891 Census of Oxfordshire: Negative. Negative.
14. Hannah FRANKLIN-640 (William
, James
) was born about 1842 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. She died in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. She was buried on 4 Feb 1888 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2.
Hannah was recorded in the 1851 census (March 30) with parents William and Lucy and siblings Sophia, Thomas, Edward, William, Amelia, and Charles in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. She was recorded in the 1861 census (April 7) with parents William and Lucy, brother Charles, and sister Amelia's son Charles in Cholsey, Berkshire 3.
I wonder if Hannah and sister Anna are one and the same?
Hannah married John STRANGE-643, son of Jeremiah STRANGE-644 and Mary [--?--]-647, on 26 Jan 1867 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. John was born on 24 Aug 1840 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. He was baptised on 4 Oct 1840 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2.
John was recorded in the 1881 census (April 3) as head of household, occupation agricultural labourer, with wife Anna and children Arthur, Albert, Minnie, Frederick and William in Cholsey, Berkshire 3.
Marriage Notes:
Marriages Mar 1867 FRANKLYN Hannah Wallingford 2c 4202c 420420
Hannah and John had the following children.
49 M i Arthur John STRANGE-650 was born on 5 Oct 1867 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. He was baptised on 2 Feb 1868 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. 50 M ii Albert STRANGE-651 was born on 23 Jun 1870 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. He was baptised on 4 Sep 1870 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. 51 F iii Minnie STRANGE-652 was born on 6 Jul 1874 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. She was baptised on 6 Sep 1874 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. 52 M iv Frederic William STRANGE-653 was born on 14 Feb 1876 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. He was baptised on 2 Apr 1876 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. 53 M v William STRANGE-654 was baptised on 14 Mar 1880 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1. He was buried on 14 Apr 1881 in Cholsey, Berkshire 2. 54 F vi Helen STRANGE-655 was baptised on 11 Mar 1883 in Cholsey, Berkshire 1.