Edith Emma ALLEN's Ancestors

Primary Sources - GRO Certificates

We currently have three primary sources for the names of the parents of my great grandmother, Edith Emma ALLEN, who married Ambrose Robert BRAZELL in 1900.

First, there is Edith Emma's birth certificate, which names both parents:

GRO Births Wandsworth 1d 620, March Quarter 1876: "Birth in the Registration District of Wandsworth, Sub-district of Wandsworth, County of Surrey; Third December 1875 33 Gladstone Street Edith Emma Girl d Jesse [?] ALLEN, Railway's Guard & Mary Ann Eliza ALLEN late COOMBES formerly LONG; Informant M A E ALLEN Mother 33 Gladstone Street Battersea; Registered Twelth January 1876 by Wiliam Griffin, Registrar."

So Edith Emma's father Jesse ALLEN married a widow (probably), Mary Ann Eliza COOMBES, whose maiden name was LONG.

Then there is Edith Emma's marriage certificate, which names her father and spells out his middle name:

GRO Marriages Hendon 3a 337, September Quarter 1900: "Marriage solemnized at All Souls' Harlesden in the Parish of Willesden in the County of Middlesex September 10 1900 Ambrose Robert BRAZELL 27 Bachelor Grocer's Assistant of 49 A High Street son of Herbert Stockwell BRAZELL, Grocer & Edith Emma ALLEN 24 Spinster of 49 A High Street daughter of Jesse Charles ALLEN Officer London County Council; Married in the Church of All Souls according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Church of England after Banns by [illegible] Curate in the Presence of Charles Henry BRAZELL, A. CHESHIRE, Jesse Charles ALLEN, S[antos?] A[?] CHURCHILL."

Finally, we have the marriage certificate of Edith Emma's parents, found after a long search:

Marriages Dec 1874 ALLEN Jesse & COOMBES Mary Ann E. - Wandsworth 1d 896: "Marriage solemnized at St. George's Church in the Parish of Battersea in the County of Surrey November 23rd 1874 Jesse ALLEN 21 Bachelor Railway Guard of 33 Gladstone Street s of George ALLEN Builder & Mary Ann Eliza COOMBES 32 Widow - of 33 Gladstone Street d of Joseph LONG Engine Fitter Married in the Church of St. George's according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by David P? Kingham Curate in the Presence of Thomas FENNEL and Caroline Susannah FENNEL."

The marriage certificate confirms that Mary Ann Eliza was a widow, but it does not mention the name of her former husband. If she was 32 when she married in 1874, she was born in 1841/42 and some 11 years older than Jesse.

Census entries

Edith Emma is living with Ambrose Robert in the 1901 census. With the information contained in the certificates above, it would normally be possible to locate Edith Emma with her parents in the 1891, 1881, and 1871 censuses and learn all kinds of interesting things about them, including her parents' year and place of birth.

Edith Emma can indeed be found in the 1881 and 1891 censuses, but she is not with her parents in either of them. Taken together with the photo evidence we have to date (see below), this could indicate that her mother died soon after Edith Emma's birth - or took off with somebody else - and Edith Emma was raised by a succession of relatives.

The 1901 Census

In the 1901 census, Edith Emma is living with husband Ambrose at 4 High Street, Willesden. The census entry is not clear in which house they are living, but it looks like it must be No. 4. They have obviously moved since marrying in September 1900, when they were resident at 49a High Street.

1901 Census of England & Wales, RG13/1216/42 p19
Middlesex, Willesden, Parish of All Souls Harlesden, Schedule 104, 4 High Street
Ambrose R. BRAZELL,Head,Married,27,Assistant Grocer,BKM,Bledlow
Edith E. BRAZELL,Wife,Married,25,-,LND,Battersea

The 1891 Census

In 1891, Edith Emma is recorded in the household of Joseph and Martha ELSE at 11, Bloomfield Road, Ealing.

1891 Census of England & Wales, RG12/1029/121 p6
Middlesex, Ealing St. John's, Schedule 32, 11 Bloomfield Road
Joseph ELSE,Head,Mar,47,Cabinet & Carpet Salesman,HRT,St. Albans
Martha ELSE,Wife,Mar,46,-,HRT,Leamington
Etha? Julia ELSE,Daughter,Single,14,Milliner's Apprentice,ESS,Chelmsford
Fredk W. ELSE,Son,Single,12,Scholar,HAM,Alton
Lizzie M. ELSE,Daughter,-,10,Scholar,WAR,-
Arthur J. ELSE,Son,-,9,Scholar,HAM,Alton
Edith E. ALLEN,Cousin,Single,15,Dressmaker's Apprentice,LND,Battersea

So who is Edith Emma's cousin - Joseph or Martha? I"m still trying to bend my brain around that relationship. It would mean that either Joseph and Edith Emma or Martha and Edith Emma share the same grandparents, and that their parents were brothers or brother and sister - as in the diagram below, where, for the sake of argument and simplicity, I assume that we are talking about Jesse's side of the family:

                             --- George = ?   ---
                            |                    |
                          Jesse       -       sibling
                            |                    |  
                       Edith Emma         Joseph or Martha       

Of course, the term "cousin" is very flexible; they could be first or second cousins, once or twice removed, which would explain the difference in ages (Edith Emma's 15 compared to 47 for Joseph and 46 for Martha):

                             ---   ?   =  ?   ---
                            |                    |
                         George    -          sibling
                            |                    |
                          Jesse    -       Joseph or Martha
                            |           
                       Edith Emma               

Or they might not be related at all!

Joseph is also recorded in the 1881 and 1871 censuses, and, if I ever decide to go down this road, at least I have found Joseph and Martha's marriage and birth references (see other citations for details).

The fact that Joseph & Martha ELSE come from Hertfordshire is promising, since, if Emma BROWN formerly ALLEN was born in the county, then perhaps her brother Jesse was, too.

This brings us to perhaps our most promising lead - the only Jesse ALLEN in the 1891 census recorded with the middle name "Charles." He's working as a hall porter on night shift at the Constitutional Club in St. Martin in the Fields, London.

1891 Census of England & Wales, RG12/0215/111 p4
London, St Martin in the Fields, Constitutional Club
Jesse Charles ALLEN,-,Married,36,Hall Porter,Watford

What makes this Jesse ALLEN so promising is not just his middle name but the fact that he was born in Watford, Hertfordshire, the birthplace of the ELSEs above and Emma BROWN in the 1881 census below. (I have no idea if or where Constitutional Club records are archived, but I'll certainly try and find out.)

The 1881 Census

I have spent hours trying to find Jesse Charles and Mary Ann ALLEN in the 1881 census - without success. Edith Emma is, however, recorded in the household of George & Emma BROWN in Barnes, Surrey.

1881 Census of England & Wales, RG11/0848/089 p8
Surrey, Barnes, 10 St. John Row
George BROWN,Head,Mar,43,Cooper,Middlesex,Brentford
Emma BROWN,Wife,Mar,45,-,Hertfordshire,Watford
Edith E. ALLEN,Niece,Unm,5,-,Surrey,Battersea

It seems unlikely that George Brown is Edith Emma's uncle (wouldn't George have to be an ALLEN or a LONG?), so, taking the census entry at face value, I assumed Edith Emma is Emma BROWN's niece (she might have been named after her!), that Emma BROWN's maiden name is ALLEN, and that she is Jesse ALLEN's sister.

I thought this was a fairly big assumption, too, until I found the George BROWN / Emma ALLEN marriage on FreeBMD and obtained the certificate:

Marriages Jun 1859 ALLEN Emma & BROWN George - Brentford 3a 66: "Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Ealing in the County of Middlesex 1859 June 26th George BROWN of full age Bachelor Cooper of Old Brentford s of Richard BROWN Greengrocer & Emma ALLEN of full age Spinster - of Old Brentford d of George ALLEN Hurdle? Maker Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by E.W. R?ETTOW in the Presence of Thomas BAKER Jane BAKER."

So Jesse and Emma both had a father named George. Beginning to sound very promising...

If their census ages are correct, Emma will have been born around 1836 (before civil registration started), making her some 20 years older than Jesse.

According to her birth certificate, Edith Emma was born at "33 Gladstone Street, Battersea" in 1875. The family is no longer at that address six years later in the 1881 census, when the occupants are the family of Edwin & Julia HEAD (see other citations).

The 1871 Census

George & Emma Brown are recorded in the 1871 census in Croyden, Surrey. It looks like they didn't have any children.

1871 Census of England & Wales, RG10/0841/132 p39
Surrey, Croyden, St. John, Schedule 188, 4 Daltons Court
George BROWN,Head,Married,33,Cooper,MDX,Brentford
Emma BROWN,Wife,Married,35,-,HRT,Watford

The 1861 Census

I haven't had a chance yet to take a really good look at the 1861 census at www.1837online.com, but I'm still hoping to find George and Emma BROWN there.

Family photographs

I've posted a selection of photos of Edith Emma's family and some of her with her second husband, Mr. Mills.

Occupations

We know from an old photograph that Edith Emma's father was a Mason. That is definitely something I will explore, along with the question of how a "railway's guard" might become an "Officer London County Council."

BMD Records

Birth of Jesse ALLEN

If we have the correct Jesse Charles ALLEN in the 1891 census above, he was born calculated 1855 in Watford. However, if he was 21 when he married in 1874, then he must have been born in 1852/3. A search of the GRO birth index turned up one Jesse ALLEN - born in the June quarter of 1853...in Watford of all places! And, even better, his father turned out to be George.

GRO Births Jun 1853 ALLEN Jesse - Watford 3a 253: "Registration District Watford 1853 Birth in the Sub-district of Bushey in the County of Hertford Twenty fourth February 1853 Flint Hall Bushey Jesse Boy s of George ALLEN Labourer & Fanny ALLEN formerly UNDERWOOD Informant: X The Mark of Fanny ALLEN Mother Flint Hall Bushey Registered First April 1853 by John BEESON Registrar."

Still very inconclusive. It would have been nice if George ALLEN's occupation had been given as builder. Probably a good idea to check the censuses before ordering any more certificates, although I'm still tempted to get Emma ALLEN's birth certificate.

Following are a couple of possible leads from the 1881 census which will be worth following up in earlier censuses.

1881 Census of England & Wales, RG11/1437/26 p2
Hertfordshire, Watford,153 High St
George ALLEN,Head,M,71,Builder (Employs 2 Men),BKM,Winslow
Mary ALLEN,Wife,M,71,-,HRT,Watford
Source: Family History Library Film 1341349
(George Allen, Builder)

1881 Census of England & Wales, RG11/1354/95 p71
Middlesex, Acton, Churchfield Road
Hannah GEE,Head,W,76,None,HRT,Shenley
Fanny ALLEN,Sister,W,70,None,HRT,Shenley
Source Information: Family History Library Film 1341329
(Fanny ALLEN in Acton, the studio address on a photo we have of her as an elderly widow)

1881 Census of England & Wales, RG11/1431/82 p22
Hertfordshire, St Albans St Peter, Lattimore Road
Thos. H. HARRIS,Head,M,29,St Albans,Carpenter & Joiner,HRT,St. Albans
Jane E. HARRIS,Wife,M,22,Dressmaker,HRT,St Albans
George HARRIS,Son,-,4 d,N K,HRT,St Albans
Fanny ALLEN,Servt,M,72,Monthly Nurse,HRT,Smallford
Source: Family History Library Film 1341347
(Fanny ALLEN, but married; so where is George?)

Birth of Mary Ann Eliza LONG

Mary Ann Eliza was 32 when she married Jesse in 1874, which makes her date of birth 1842/3. According to the GRO birth index, the only Mary Ann Eliza LONG born in this period was the following:

GRO Births Dec Qtr 1841 LONG Mary Ann Eliza Stepney II 409: "Registration District Stepney 1841 Birth in the Sub-district of Limehouse in the County of Middlesex September the twenty eighth 1841 Gill Street Limehouse Mary Anne Eliza d of Joseph LONG Boilermaker & Mary Ann LONG formerly SCAIFE X the mark of Mary Ann LONG Mother 35 Gill Street Limehouse Registered November the first 1841 by Adolphus BANNET Registrar."

Mary Ann Eliza's father was an engine fitter when she married Jesse, which is pretty close to boilermaker, so I'm fairly sure we have the right Mary Ann Eliza here. I'm pretty sure her marriage certificate gives her maiden name as SCAIFE, of which there are over 1,300 recorded in the 1881 census - including 41 in Middlesex. But there are no SCAIFE events registered on FreeBMD between 1837 and 1860.

Marriage of Mary Ann Eliza LONG & Mr. COOMBES

Mary Ann Eliza LONG married a Mr. COOMBES before she married Jesse Charles ALLEN, according to daughter Edith Emma's birth certificate.

There is a Mary LONG/COOMBES marriage on FreeBMD in 1839, which is far too early for our Mary Ann Eliza:

Marriages June Qtr 1839 COOMBES George / LONG Mary Ann - I. of Wight 8 333

Then there is this one, in 1865, which sounds very promising:

Marriages June Qtr 1865 LONG Mary Ann Eliza & COOMBES Henry - Brighton 2b 366

Death of Jesse Charles ALLEN

Found these death references on www.familyrelatives.org:

Death 1Q-1907 ALLEN Jesse 71 - Pancras 1b 3
Death 3Q-1907 ALLEN Jesse John 52 - Wandsworth 1d 326
Death 1Q-1911 ALLEN Jesse 57 - Islington 1b 116
Death 1Q-1917 ALLEN Jesse 78 - Wandsworth 1d 740

The Jesse who died aged 57 in 1911 would have been born in 1853/54, which would match our Jesse Charles ALLEN's approximate date of birth. Is it worth getting the certificate?

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